I watch Lost, but sometimes it pisses me off. It's like the writers keep coming out with new mysteries like there is no tomorrow. It's as if "not only are they stranded on an island, not only do they have a whole bunch of shit to worry about, there are now DINOSAURS on the island!"
this is J.J. Abrahms' M.O. alias started sucking after the first 3 seasons too and he would throw that rimbauldi shit out there and then forget about it for half a season
I think Abrams is too busy with other projects to worry about the quality of Lost. The day-to-day producers and the writers on the other hand... At least they (the writers) have promised that everything on the island is actually happening, and there won't be some kind of "it was all a dream" conclusion. But that also makes it more dependent on sci-fi logic and suspension of disbelief. There's a lot of story arcs taking place at the same time too, maybe too many, some of them hasn't been revisited in a very long time.
yeah i guess that was my point real the same thing happened with alias he started working on lost concurrent with alias's run and the quality dropped on alias while he was doing that
That would be 100 episodes, but that's not a great rule these days. Although Lost isn't your typical candidate for off-network syndication (as opposed to Seinfeld, where the episodes are independent of each other), I'm sure it'll find its way there, 100 episodes or not.
But Abrams is not the sole creator or original producer of Lost, and he only wrote 3 episodes so far. I don't think he's got the golden touch a lot of people trust in. MI3 was so so, it'll be interesting to see what he can do with Star Trek. Speaking of reboots, the people who "restarted" the Bond franchise really did a good job.
Lost and 24 are the only ones I watch, any other worth watching? I rented the first 3 seasons of alias and watched them in one week, it was kind of an overload. I liked it, but I haven't seen anymore. What else is there, prision break?
I doubt he accepts any project he's not passionate about. That sounds like fans trying to say that it wasn't his fault that it wasn't a great movie. Of course it was his fault.
Last night was interesting, but not as rewarding/clue solving as advertised, they just keep wondering off, they're starting to loose me.. Advertised "The answer to what happens to the kidnapped people in this episode!!!" What we found out "We give them a better life" Fuck!
No... Jack is on a level of awesome beyond our comprehension. He has a way of saying Fuck You, that you don't realize what he's said until a minute after.
Yeah man, that was... you'd have to add a lot of imagination for that to make any sense. Not just him leaving the room, but also his agenda, why would he wanna help Jack? His first line was "I'm not allowed to talk with you," and 3 minutes later he's running out of the room, taking Jack's orders like it's coming from a 4 star general.
Surviving 2 years of Chinese prison camp torture will give you that false sense of Superman-superiority...
But getting caught in general is at least a realistic outcome, and it gives the writers/directors a chance to infuse some new torture and action scenes, now that CTU is about to storm the place. Although the latter would probably not happen in real life.
Oh, I'm sure they will at least try, CTU will have 20 guys storm the place just before his finger is lost (around hour:34), the Russians won't have a clue until it's too late. "Is that the sound of a helicopter right above this house?"
That's cool. I wonder how many colleges have celebrity commencement speakers of that caliber, every year. I haven't decided how I feel about it. It's obviously a waste of money, but also a boost in publicity. Plus it's cool to be able to say that you received your papers from <<"insert name">>. Not that it really matters at all. Haha.
I used to live in North Jersey. I know the shitty and the rich areas pretty well. The only good thing about it is the short distance to NYC. But I have a lot of friends who grew up there, and they'll defend Jersey until their dying days. Well, some of them at least.
That's what you think, turns out they're not really in an island, they've been shrunk and live in a backyard of a giant's house, that's coming in season 4
It's not wrapping up. I'd say at least 1, probably 2 more seasons. The writers usually insinuate that there will be an end, but also that they will keep writing for as long as they can. I guess in a way it's good that one of the creators is also a main writer and executive producer, he might have a tiny bit of clout when it comes to killing it before it gets too boring.
OH MAN. Crazy episode. Kinda obvious that his dad was going to be in the room. If I had a box that'd give me anything, I'd wish for Adriana Lima and a lifetime supply of Chocolate syrup.
yeah he does seems like he kinda knew it this time though and it seemed like Ben was scrambling to make it look like he wanted Locke to blow up the sub all along i think what ben is best at is not getting you to do what he wants and making you think it was your idea but making it seem like he was in control the whole time ben is all about making people feel like they have no control thus the constant reminder that he "knows" locke know details of his life ect.
The idea that Locke is blowing up all the chances of going back just because he would be disabled again does not make sense. He could just stay and let everyone else go. There something else going on
right and while the details are quantitatively extensive they are not omniscient details they are details that could be gleaned with a minimal amount of work the others are acting like fortune tellers/con-artists using the information they have to give the impression they are all-knowing and more in control than they really are
Finally a good, well written episode. It didn't advance the story, but I really liked the poetic justice of it all. What a great way to kill off two characters.
Agreed. I also liked the way they showed past days, all the details that I didn't notice before. Like for example at the crash, boone asking for a pen to nikky. And of course, it was nice to see shannon again, and nikky showing her goods. Lost lacks female goods.
I thought about that too, the hole wasn't very deep, but it'd pretty hard to breathe with all that sand on top of you. And it's beach sand, fine sand. But then it's the island we're talking about.
I digged the chick fight, they should've kept fighting in the rain with wet t-shirts until they ripped them apart, and then make out ha! Sawyer a leader? don't think so..
Sawyer is probably my favorite character, he's such a proud loser, but I don't think there will be enough time for him to become much of a leader. Although Jack & Co. probably won't be getting back to the beach in the next few episodes, if at all, until the end of the season.
"They left her behind too." I wonder if they really did, in the sense that they abandoned her. It seems like a no brainer, that they would leave her behind (or even fake the whole departure) so that she can infiltrate their camp. But on the other hand, it's not like they're not in full control of the beach people anyway, they wouldn't need someone on the inside to get whoever or whatever info they wanted at this point.
real have you noticed that whenever they hide from something in the jungle whether it be the bears or the monster it is in the exact same place that stand of funky looking trees with the little clearing in the center
and i really don't think the others are as in control as they want everyone to think they keep saying they know everyone like kate says to the blonde chick "you don't know jack" and she goes off with this list of facts about his life all things that they could find out with a little work and a computer but what do they really know? and what makes someone who they are? i think kate feels like she knows jack because she has seen how he reacts in the face of life threatening danger she knows him in a way people that hadn't spent that time with him could never know him the others try to undermine that by leaking secrets to the castaways about their fellow castaways things they might have kept to themselves because they are ashamed of them just like they did with Locke about Kate and Locke is so gullible and insecure that he doesn't realize it
I think Kate feels like she knows Jack because she's in love with him. But it's true that a lot of the info the Others possess would be somewhat easy to obtain if you have people outside of the island. There are so many missing pieces in the plot that it's impossible to know anything for sure, unless they blatantly reveal it to you. Like the relationship between the Dharma project and the Others. Supposedly they're not the same people, but how did the other (either of them) get so many buildings and stuff going if one of them was already there? Or was it all built by the Dharma people, they somehow died/abandonded the island, and the Others assimilated their buildings? The opposite has been insinuated, with Ben being born on the island, the Dharma people came and installed their hatches, the Others dealt with them. The highest ranking person of the Others, Isabel, must be on a 3rd island, or on the prison island, if it's huge. So many questions, so few answers.
The monster does seem to appear at the same place haha! If the Others built that defense against the monster, maybe it killed all the Dharma people, whenever they went outside.
I think it is a setup. They leave her behind, with a set of keys to the fence? And why do Jack & Co. want to go back to the beach? They have a civilized compound to live in now, with a fence to protect them. No, let's go back to the beach, makes sense.
Where do the Others get their food? There must be a huge supply of toast and other sandwich condiments somewhere. Or maybe Juliet pulls it out of her ass.
Yeah, from/for the Dharma team, now, since they know their stations have been compromised, maybe that will stop and forces will land on the island. But what I meant was that there has to be a storage room where they keep their food, similar to what was in the hatch. They should scour that before they leave the area. The Others must have their own food supply chain, if they were there before the Dharma people, maybe they filled up that submarine with ham and cheese.
real do you get to see the previews for the following week? they show jack and crew arriving back on the beach w/Juliette. they also intimate that Said threatens to torture here
Ah, I see. I read that as "Jack screwing on the beach with w/Juliette." No, I never watch previews. For Lost, 24, or any other show. Maybe I would if they were included with the download, or if I watched it on tv. But sometimes the episodes are so boring, especially of 24, so watching a preview would take away whatever little that was left. Sayid should definitely torture her. He's like the Jack Bauer of Lost. Did they have food with them? Juliet is kind of useless otherwise, unless they eat her.
I just realized that Juliet was destined to be part of the beach crew/team, in some way or another, because she had a flashback episode. Maybe that doesn't mean anything, but we've seen a lot of the Others this season, and she's the only one who had a flashback.
What a bitch! I guess she could be double crossing Ben too, but she seems desperate to get off the island. Either way she deserves to be the next casualty of the black smoke. Or a deep dark hole in the ground, with spikes at the bottom.
Oh, and I watched the preview for this past episode. I'm glad I didn't watch it until after I saw the episode, it totally takes away any kind of suspense.
Well now we know why she was brought to the island. Although half of her story was a lie, they did kidnap claire and implanted something on her. And how was ben born in the island if all the pregnant women die? That's another lie probably. So many lies.
I think he was born on that ship (he and) the French woman was on, it was probably a pirate ship. It landed and crashed on the rocks of the island, and he grew up there.
Yeah, they both call Alex their daughter. Well, it was insinuated that it was her daughter, he could be lying to her of course, but it would make sense if it was true, and the French woman has gone mad. But then again, if she is his daughter, and he was born on the island, and all pregnant women before Claire died... there's a lie somewhere.
But also I think Alex was 219% kidnapped, and that's why Ben is calling her his daughter. If Badass Crazy Frech Lady thinks she killed someone, it's fair to say her job was thourough.
Yeah, he's not her real father. In the podcast, the producers pointed out that Danielle, even though she's supposedly been on the island a very long time, always seems baffled in every episode she's in, claiming she has never seen most of the things they before, which is kinda funny.
I was thinking about that, all the mothers who died while pregnant (that was the problem, not dying babies), weren't they part of that fertility project? Both Danielle and Claire were impregnated the old fashioned way, far away from the island. But Juliet's sister supposedly conceived without any complications (other than having and being cured from cancer) in Miami, so that's their main argument I guess for the island being what is causing the pregnant mothers to die. Which is a ridiculous plot point, although it's a powerful concept that no new life can be created on the island, and it technically holds true, a far as we know.
You're right. About the mothers dying, not the babies. Sorry.
So if Danielle was inpregnated far from the island and so was Claire, why did Juliet have to give Claire the injection? She didn't have the serum made until just before she gave it to Claire, right? So then, I guess I just don't undestand why they would have to inject Claire knowing that it was possible for a child to be born if the conception was away from the island.
I'll stop now. It's mind boggling, hence the appeal.
well i think Charlie or Desmond retrieved the injections that Desmond had been taking from the hatch and had been giving them to Claire perhaps they are related
Juliet giving Claire the injection, in the last episode, was just smoke and mirrors. It was an antidote to whatever they had given her to trigger that reaction, it was all set up, and not because of some disease or complication. Which is silly, because it's pretty far fetched, planning that far ahead (injecting Claire with the trigger) would be really hard. We don't know if what she told them is true, that Ethan had been injecting Claire the whole time in secrecy. The injections Desmond was taking before was also just a placebo, to keep him believing that it was dangerous to be outside. I don't think they had been injecting Claire with Desmond's serum.
well i'm pretty sure they injected either claire or the the baby with desmond's serum but it might be a red herring also it is conceivable Ben had been planing this type of infiltration all along and used Claire to facilitate it because she was available since they had kidnapped her for other reasons