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    • CommentAuthorTLA
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2008
     
    Fact: The CDC has stopped reporting bite statistics by breed, as these numbers are driven by eyewitness reports, and are very often inaccurate. Why did the CDC stop? Because misidentification of breed is extremely common, making eyewitness reports an unreliable source.


    10. Criminal Dog Owners - They vary in size, shape, color and creed. Whether urban or rural, they thrive in environments where crime does pay.
    This breed may deliberately train dogs to be human aggressive. This breed has been known to shoot dogs for fun it. They fight dogs and use sweet tempered dogs as bait. Here in the New York area - they've been known to feed dogs ground up glass and gun power to toughen them up - you know-In case the police kick the front door - they're out the back - and the dogs are in between.

    9. Irresponsible and Ignorant Dog Owners
    Characterized by a complete lack of common sense and or manners, these dog owners come in three distinct varieties - Dumb, Dumber and Plain Stupid.
    However they do share the same breed traits, like
    1. Complete disregard for local leash or pooper scooper laws
    2. Stubborn, self-centered rudeness
    3. The inability to see the potential consequences for their behavior
    So here are the three types if I & I's:
    · Dumb- When Snowball whines to go out, they throw open the front door and let her out to wander the neighborhood. Snowball is free to poop and pee wherever she likes. And if Snowball should wander into my yard and my dog defends its territory, like many dogs .......we've got a problem.
    · Dumber - Easy to recognize, this genius nonchalantly walks their dog off leash in the neighborhood, like it's no big deal. WEll in my book - it is a big deal. How would you like it if I let my dog run up to your children off leash. Or run up to any person who may be afraid of dogs. (and BTW - I support off leash space - just not on the block). And it's not OK if your dog takes a dump in my flowerbed, got that?
    · Plain Stupid- Waaaaay short on common sense - they let their children play unattended with dogs, or let them run up to pet a stranger's dog or get in a strange dog's face.

    8. Negligent or Abusive Dog Owners
    Like sociopaths who lack basic the human trait of compassion - this all-too-common breed is well known for a lack of care or concern. They are, however, gifted and talented in the areas of neglect or cruelty. These G & Ts routinely fail to give their animals even the basics of food, water or shelter or fail to provide vet care. David Owens, an employee of Child Services in New York, has been accused of leaving his dying Akita out in the cold for weeks.
    Even beating the dog is OK for these people- it's only a dog. Even if it's not their dog! Kick it if it gets in your way, wants food or attention. OK - so cruel and unusual punishment is against law, so giving them the same treatment is out. Too bad.


    7. Ignorant Shelter Workers & Rescuers
    We give shelter and rescue workers big snaps for the great job they do on a daily basis. That said - they are some bad apples in this bunch. Who? These people are marked by their staggering ignorance, leaving the rest of the dog world stammering in surprise.
    Statements from these so-called "professionals" include, "We don't adopt out Pitbulls - they have locking jaws", and "We don't adopt out Rotties or Dobermans - they're aggressive". Better yet, they hide a dog's health or behavioral history, thinking that all dogs can be saved, from adopters who may be in for a big surprise. Someone needs to teach this breed a lesson - and quick.


    6. Ignorant Dog Fanciers
    Nose and tail always in the air with, "Breed restrictions don't really apply to me - I own a PUREBRED dog". Oh, really ? Maybe you'd like to share you magical powers with the rest of us....or better yet ............


    5. Arrogant Dog Fanciers
    Not only are nose and tail always in the air, but his type will even dis their fellow dog fanciers with, "it's not my breed". Ain't that special? Now bend over ...........this won't hurt a bit....
    Numbers 4 and 5 do a diservice to the many hardworking, ethical home breeders who care deeply about their dogs and the welfare of dogs in general.


    4. Irresponsible News Media
    They attack -unprovoked, when you least expect it. Out of the blue, and really just when those ratings are starting to take a dive. That's just the perfect time to lead with a dog story. These media outlets target large working breeds, they thrive on fear. And they are yellow to the core.
    · Yeah - I'm talking to you, Kathryn McIntyre of the Commerce City Journal for your lack of editorial integrity for publishing the street addresses of pitbull owners. Sex offenders have more privacy rights than dog owners.
    · And yeah - I'm talking to you all you local metro broadcast news outlets, like CBS Channel 2 News in New York that that invariably portray "dangerous" dogs as Pitbulls or Rottweilers. In journalism - we don't automatically portray stories of rapes with images of black or Hispanic men. Nor should we visually support dangerous dog news stories with pictures of Pitbulls and Rottweilers, by default - like the one shown here from the CBS News site:
    · And yeah, I'm talking to you, for any print or web media that shows that same doctored photo of a snarling pitbull with digitally elongated teeth.
    This ain't news - it's titillating info-tainment designed to spike fear, ad circ, and ratings at the same time.
    It's time to run these out-of-control puppies back thru the basics - you know, fair and balanced reporting, media ethics - all that stuff they swore by in journalism school.

    3. Greedy Insurers
    These insurers aren't dogs - they're pigs. And who's to stop them when...........
    · they can chow down of easy profits on the backs of good dog owners by denying, limiting or eliminating coverage of dog owners in 37 states?
    · they stuff so much of their piggy bank bucks into the pockets of politicians?
    Then politicians, hoggin' up all that campaign dough , do the bidding of the insurance sector, blocking bills that would make it illegal for insurers to discriminate against good dogs and good dog owners.
    There's a saying - pigs get fat, but hogs get slaughtered. I'd like to invite you all to a barbeque :-)

    2. Opportunistic Politicians
    These dogs will whine - they beg - they'll do anything for attention - and money - especially from those fat cats in the insurance lobby who ensure obedience with juicy campaign donations. These politicians breed fear, thrive on ignorance and count on apathy. Prime examples are :
    Michael Bryant - Ontario's infamous "Puppykiller" for the province's sick and twisted breed ban. One must "prove" that a dog isn't a pitbull and the law requires all pitbull type puppies be shipped out of the province, sent to reseach facilities or euthanized.
    Jackie Speier of California, AKA "The Breed Exterminator", and notable author of SB 861, which is having a chilling effect on dog ownership in California
    Paul Wesslehoft of Oklahoma - whose bill to ban certain breeds just went down in flames in the state legislature there.
    Molly Markert of Aurora, Colorado's Town Council - that smiling Miss Prim (we hear she smirked to the audience when the breed ban passed) - and noted dog-hater, a leader in passing Aurora's 12 breed dog ban
    I've got a message for you - kick these headline grabbing, egg-suckin', political opportunists of ANY political persuasian to the curb in the next local or state elections.
    The Most Dangerous Breeds?
    I'll tell you the most dangerous breeds - write these down!

    #1 All Time Dangerous Breed:
    The #1 most dangerous breed are media outlets that deliberately breed fear, spreading myths and lies about dog breeds and canine behavior through irresponsible reporting and reinforcement of undeserved and negative breed stereotypes
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    LMFAO...u know.. i KNEW something along these lines was coming from you...

    hm, thats a great list, but i still think pitbulls are the most dangerous breed of anything.

    i think that should be #1...how about you TLA?
    • CommentAuthorTLA
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2008
     
    I'll kick your ass... that's what I think... then I'll get my pit to lick you to death... cause yea that's all she does is lick... lol
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    which pit? your right or your left?

    thats like something out of that Rabid movie with Marylin Chambers where the dealie comes out her armpits and sucks her victims blood and gives them a diesese....

    oh your talking about a dog?

    man i didnt knwo you had a pit.

    must be dangerous, like worrying when you try and go to sleep that your dog isnt planning something, worrying when you come home if your dog is gonna rip you to shreads, or even if you have people at your house with kids, im sure their parents would worry about your dog being around too..

    sheesh...

    The Most Dangerous Game 2: Living With Pitbulls
    • CommentAuthoranababy
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2008
     
    This is not what I was expecting when I clicked this..... hahah

    I really want a pitbull. I went to the bank the other day and there was a stray pitbull in the parking lot and he was sooooo adorable and friendly. He started giving me kisses and followed me back to my car....

    I wanted to take him back home with me but my family would have been pissed.

    And the sad part is..... afterwards, I drove by a pole about a mile away from where the dog was with a paper taped to it saying "lost dog" with a picture of the pitbull!!!
    • CommentAuthorTLA
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2008
     
    hahahahahaha That's it you are so going down now...

    Just wait...
    • CommentAuthorTLA
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2008
     
    oh how sad... Hopefully they were re-united...

    I will admit Pits are not for everyone you have to be diligent with them... They are a very energetic breed that requires a lot of attention and love...

    Before anyone gets ANY dog though I would suggest researching that breed to see if its really the kind you want...
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    u know whats sad?

    there have been ads for a missing dog Named "Winston" up in the area i work....since like when i started april of 07.

    its cruel, cause im not that way, but i chuckle to myself when i see them, cause i want to call the number and say...

    "Ma'am, could u collect all your signs, i dont think winston's coming home"

    LMFAO thats funny jusr reading that....man sometimes i wish i was a cruel bastard....
  4.  
    TLA... "you are so going down".... yeah, like i have ANY problem with THAT.....
    • CommentAuthorTLA
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2008
     
    lmao Phil...
    • CommentAuthoranababy
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2008
     
    lol almost all of btd's comments have references to "going down"....
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    thats cause my goal is always to steer every thread in the direction of that subject.

    that way i KNOW whatever thread i click into, i KNOW i can be reminded just about how much i LOVE, ahem "going down".

    not that i need to be reminded, but, u know, its always good to have some extra "remindation"

    not that thats a word, i just made it up.

    look how cool i am.

    but ive directed the thread now to a word i made up and not trying my hardest to tip the little man in the boat over. not that you CAN actually do that, but oh how its fun to try,.....
    • CommentAuthorTLA
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2008
     
    lmao again...
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    Speaking of breeds...We were just excluded from an apartment, because German Shephards are a restricted breed at most apartment complexes on the east coast. So we are stuck staying where we are.
    Dogs are like guns......Bad owners make bad pets.......Just like guns don't kill people, people kill people.
    We have the sweetest puppy in the world yet we can't get in. Personally I think it should be a case by case basis.
    I'm still pissed because we went to look at apartments on Saturday and we really, really like the place and it was affordable. Plus transportation to NY was only 7 minutes away. The community had a pool.
    Before traveling 2 and half hours to go there I asked if they took dogs and had any breed restrictions I was told they had none. So we are getting ready to make the plunge when we ask to make sure about the dogs....They tell us they only take one dog and German Shepards are restricted.
    Actually it was brought up by the other couple that was on the same tour with us. So this little yuppy bitch says to me....."That should always be first question."
    I was fuming at that point. Not only had I driven 2 and half hours.....Half blind, but we had dragged Cindy with her walker up and downstairs in 105 degree weather. I just wanted to slap her.
    I was like it was the first question I asked, because that is our primary problem finding an apartment. Our two "special" children (the dogs).
    After that point the sales person virtually ignored us, because we were beyond consideration. The yuppy husband, who was wearing like 1970's basketball shorts and was one wrong leg movement away from giving us all a horrible show informs
    everyone that his wife is singer and if they thought that might bother the other tenants. Than he said he played drumms.
    As we were walking out the door I opened the door for the ladies, but as the yuppy b*&#! walked by me I said, "Hey too bad,
    maybe we could all have jammed if I didn't have an attack dog." Not in a nice tone.
    Cindy and I have been around the block and it kind of pissed us both off that this, know it all, yuppy couple thought they were going to give us advice.
    We got back to the office and I complained, saying the property office said nothing about breed restrictions and that we had traveled 2 and half hours, run my disabled wife through a steeple chase of stairs, apartments and various watertraps.
    It would have been nice if we knew from the beginning and didn't make journey at all.
    OK....Well I got that out.
    • CommentAuthorTLA
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2008
     
    Yea, that was messed up... I hate stupid apartments for many reasons... that being one of them... I much more afraid of a small dog then I am a big one... lol
    • CommentAuthorTLA
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2008
     
    same thing going into a store... whey the hell can someone carry in their small dog and its okay, but they wont let me carry in my pitbull... hmmm... I can carry her like a baby... I hate seeing small dogs inside stores...
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    I know...there yappy and usually overbred so they are far more likely to bite.
    I admit...When give the proper command now....My dog Arawyn could seriously injure you, but that is why she is trained. She is also the smartest dog I've ever been around and probably less likely to bite someone's head off than me at this point.
    • CommentAuthorTLA
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2008
     
    Yea, my girl licks and licks and licks... I mean give her enough time I'm sure she could lick a sore spot, but that's a vicious as she gets... unless you are a cat, dog, or another animal...
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    My dog....She get aggressive if my other dog gets aggressive. In fact, my dog sarah hates people touching her toes....She's older and my wife stepped on her toe while playing with her and Sarah went to nip at my wife's hand......Within about 1/2 a second was up and body blocked Sarah from getting ahold.
    Arrawyn is fast and has great instincts....She will bark as a warning and than sit as trained and watch until given a command. She so well trained and smart. In fact most times we have to incourage her rather than scould her.
    Although....She does have a tiny problem with the trash....But other wise she's smarter than me at times.
    Sad part is Sarah is far more likely to be agreesive and uncontrollable than Arrawyn, but Sarah wouldn't be banned due to restrictions.
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    ok no offensive everyone, but, you CANNOT PREDICT what an animal....ANY ANIMAL will do.

    just cause your dogs are docile NOW....doesnt mean at the drop of a pin something can set them off.

    look at that tiger that mauled Sigfiend or roy.

    they had that tiger for how many years? they had it from the day it was born...and it turned like nothing, after how many shows, and how many years living with them?

    weather or not you agree with teh stories about your dogs, the point is, if they have a bad rep, said breed, they have a bad rep.

    weather its fair or not, hey, if someone OWNS an a[partment building, and thats their policy, they are the owner.

    thats like saying you shouldnt be able to dictate how someone treats your house.

    then why not let every animal shit on your lawn?

    you own it, whats the problem?

    weather its fair or not is NOT the point, you are missing the whole idea behind the fact that YOU CANNOT PREDICT WHAT ANY ANIMAL is going to do.

    i feel the need to tell this story AGAIN.

    my boss was walking through the preserve with his wife and 2 kids.

    his kids are the really nice kids, brought up right? dont do ANYTHING BAD.

    a guy walks past with his dog.

    my boss says....

    "you know, you arent supposed to have dogs in the preserve, let alone not on a leash, you should really have him on a leash"

    guys responce.

    "MY DOG WOULDNT EVER HURT ANYONE"

    30 minutes later, same dog, the dog RUNS UP AND BITES MY BOSSES KID.

    guys responce when my boss freaks out?

    "ive had this dog 9 years, and its NEVER done anything like this before"

    my bosses kid wasnt doing ANYTHING, just walking through the preserve with his mom and dad and sister, and, the guys dog bites him.

    this is the point.

    just cause your respective animals havent EVER done anything like this before, you cannot predict what you dog will do in any situation with ANY 100% certanty.

    i dont mean to sound like a dick, but almost EVERY story i read about a dog attacking someone?

    "MY DOG HASNT EVER DONE ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE"

    is in the story.
    • CommentAuthorTLA
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2008
     
    You are right animals like children even grown adults can be unpredictable...
    • CommentAuthorTLA
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2008
     
    In fact no living creature can be predictable...
    • CommentAuthorAngelfood
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2008
     
    I have seen a small dog give one hell of a bite before. I think it IS...bad owner/bad dog. I would rather see a weight restriction vs. pointing at any given breed. A small dog can be very irrating, yappy, easy to step on etc. I hate small, small dogs - give me my pit or even a cocker spaniel anyday. People should educate their children, all dog owners should be educated on leash laws and picking up their own dogs poop...we could all live together if people used common sense and 9 times outta 10 didn't have their heads up their butts. I knew when I got my pitbull that there were places I would never be able to live again...why and the hell would I want to live near such ignorant, uneducated people? Pits can be dangerous, owners can be stupid...but passing a law against a specific breed is wrong - it is NOT the breed's fault.
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      CommentAuthorAzkadellia
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2008
     
    I have been banned
    <blockquote>In fact no living creature can be predictable...</blockquote>

    I'm living proof of that, thank you very much.
    • CommentAuthorTLA
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2008
     
    Thank you Angel... though I would rather see a better adoption / purchase program going on then a breed or even weight restriction... Some people just don't know how or even really want to take care of a dog they adopt / buy...
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